2 Peter 3 Flood

This page covers the flood spoken of in 2 Peter 3 which is believed to be talking about a flood before the 6 days of creation which made the earth without form and void.

Biblical Texts to Explore:

2 Peter 3:5-6 KJV – 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:


Gap Fact Belief Premise:

They believe the flood spoken of happened between Gen 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 and was a result of the fall of Lucifer. This flood is what caused the earth to become without form and void in Genesis 1:2.

Dr. David Peacock on the 2 Peter 3 flood Video (Click Play Below)

Gap Fact Problems:

  • The core problem is that this interpretation is filled with private non-scripture backed interpretations. We will go in depth into the following gap fact beliefs.
    • “From the Beginning of the Creation” Flood
      • They believe the context of what Peter is saying is the beginning of creation.
    • How Many Worlds?
      • 2 Peter 3 mentions 3 worlds, but the Gap Fact indirectly says there was a 4th world.
    • Plural Heavens in Genesis 1:1
      • This flood lists plural heavens in ver 5 but there are no plural heavens in Gen 1:1.
    • Universal Flood (Not to be confused with the Global Flood during Noah’s time)
      • They imply a universal flood which is not in the Bible
        • By universal they mean that the 1st heaven created in Genesis 1:1 was flooded)
        • Some also imply that there were more than one set of plural heavens which also is not biblical.
    • Floating Cork Interpretation
      • They believe the earth was floating like a cork in the universe and then God pushed it down with his feet under the water.

2 Peter 1:20 KJV – 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Timeline Question: “Beginning of the Creation” Flood

First we will cover the time frame listed in the 2 Peter 3 passage. The “Gap Fact” believer is taught to read what the scoffer says and say this is the time frame of the flood peter is talking about. Here watch and listen to Brother Gene Kim explain the view:

There are Two Problems with this interpretation:

Problem #1

  • They read the text and try to apply the time frame of the scoffers (from the beginning of the creation) and imply Peter is using the scoffers quote as a the time frame when in reality Peter actually gives a totally separate time frame 1656 years from the beginning of creation:
  • 2 Peter 3:3 KJV – Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
  • Scoffers Saying, “Not Peter”
    • 2 Peter 3:4 KJV – And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.
  • What Peter actually says:
    • 2 Peter 3:5 KJV – For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:..
  • Notice that Peter NEVER says, “from the beginning of the creation”. Rather he says it’s when “the heavens were of old“. That is Peter’s time frame!
    • He says heavens plural which is a major problem for the “gap fact” believer as Gen 1:1 only has a single heaven as mentioned in detail above.
    • This explanation from Peter fits Noah’s flood perfectly because by the time the flood happened, the plural heavens were 1656 years old.
  • Peter is pointing out how foolish they are for saying no flood has happened since “the beginning of the creation”, but rather that when the heavens were 1656 years old, the old world perished being overflowed with water.
    • 2 Peter 2:5 KJV – 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
    • 2 Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

Problem #2

  • Now lets compare scripture with scripture and look up the phrase “from the beginning of the creation
    • from the beginning of the creation” occurs ONLY 3 times in 3 verses in the KJV
    • Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
    • Mark 13:19 For [in] those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
    • 2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.
  • Notice the first mention of the phrase is a quote from Jesus talking about when God made man which is day 6 of creation.
    • The phrase “from the beginning of the creation” is certainly including Gen 1:27 which is well beyond Gen 1:2.
      • [Gen 1:27 KJV] 27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
    • So even if we use the scoffers time frame it DOES NOT end at Gen 1:1 or 1:2.

How Many Worlds

  1. The “World that Was” – Taught by the Gap Fact to be Gen 1:1 Lucifer Kingdom.
  2. Noah’s “Old World” 2 Peter 2:5, is missing from the 2 Peter 3 List of Worlds?
  3. The “World that is” – Current
  4. The “World to come” – Future

Question: If there are really four worlds then why doesn’t this passage mention Noah’s World?

  • This does not fit the context of the 1st and 2nd Peter when you consider that the Holy Spirit used the same author to write about Noah’s flood in the same book/letter in chapter 2 and also mentions Noah in 1 Peter, but leaves it out here?  That is confusion and God is not the author of confusion. 
  • The context of the book and chapter point to Noah’s flood which we and the scoffers have ample scripture about.
    • 1 Peter 3:20 KJV – 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
    • 2 Peter 2:5 KJV – 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
      • Notice what Peter indirectly implies here about the highlighted text “the old world”. He implies that there is only a single old world. If there were two old worlds, then why doesn’t he say “the second old world” or something similar?
    • 2 Peter 3:6 KJV – 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
  • The 3 worlds 2 Peter 3 lists:
  • There is NO other scripture to explain this 4th world interpretation? There is no scripture mentioning a second flood outside of Noah’s.  This is a private interpretation.
    • In Brother Peacock’s Deep’s video he even goes into how God does things in 3’s. His reference to God doing things in 3’s fits perfect with 3 three worlds actually listed in the scripture we are exploring. Watch and listen below.

Plural Heavens in Genesis 1:1

  • There is only a single heaven in Genesis 1:1. Nowhere else in the Bible does it say Genesis 1:1 had more then one heaven. This is a private interpretation.
    • Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
  • 2 Peter 3:5 KJV – 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
    • Besides the word heavens being plural the conjunction “were” is a plural as well.

Brother Perry Demopoulos on Plural Heavens

  • heavens were of old, and the earth” were of old, perished (v.6). Notice the added revelation concerning the heavens of heavens, “WHICH WERE OF OLD…” (Psa.68:33 dealing with what was in Genesis 1:1 although Genesis 1:1 speaks of all the heavens as one “heaven” but in actuality there were more than one -“
    Page 114 – The Gap Fact

Responding to Brother Perry on Plural Heavens

  • Notice the first sentence APPEARS to be a quote of 2 peter 3:6. Here is the actual full text.
    • 2 Peter 3:6 KJV – Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
      • Notice the ONLY THING that perished was the world… Nothing about the heavens perishing.
    • Brother Perry combines part of verse 5 with part of verse 6. This is miss-quoted/combined/ scripture that will easily mislead his reader.
  • Notice the last sentence he says about the single heaven in Genesis 1:1 “in actuality there were more than one -”
    • So, Brother Perry is basically saying God made a mistake here when He wrote Heaven (Singular) in Gen 1:1. He (God, really meant Heavens)
    • This is a totally private interpretation. There is no scripture saying there was more than one heaven in Gen 1:1.

2 Peter 3:5-6 Cannot be a flood in between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2 because the bible tells us clearly there is only one heaven in Genesis 1:1.

Universal Flood

The Gap Fact believer is taught things that are not scriptural, they are a private interpretation. They are taught that there was more than one heaven in Genesis 1:1 and also that the 2nd heaven was flooded. Listen to Pastor Gene Kim:

  • The Scripture in Question:
    • 2 Peter 3:5-6 KJV – 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
  • Subtly Implies More than One Heaven in Genesis 1:1
    • Dr. Kim subtly implies there were multiple heavens in Gen 1:1. The Bible NEVER says there was more then one heaven in Gen 1:1, he doesn’t even attempt to explain this because there is Zero scripture to back up his theory. Interestingly multiple times during the sermon he says something to the effect of “How do we know this, scripture with scripture”.
      • The actual scriptural bottom line is that there is no 2nd heaven until day 2 of creation when God made the firmament.
  • The 2nd Heaven (that didn’t even exist) is flooded
    • Dr. Kim claims the heavens flooded and the Bible does NOT even say that.
  • The Bible here in 2 Peter 3:6 NEVER says the heavens were flooded. ONLY the world was flooded according to scripture.
    • “2 Peter 3:6 …the world that then was, overflowed with water and perished :”
      • The heavens (1st and 2nd) have never perished and will not until the end in Revelation when they will melt.
  • The scripture perfectly matches Noah’s flood where the heavens are untouched and only the world is overflowed with water.

Floating Cork Interpretation

Going along with the multiple heavens mentioned above this interpretation takes it a step further and says that the 2nd heaven is partially flooded and that the earth is floating like a cork on a lake. This teaches that only part of the 2nd heaven was flooded.

It also teaches that the way the whole earth overflowed with water is that God pushed it down with his feet when he stood up from his throne and pushed away the footstool (earth) into the lake of the 2nd heaven. There are four verses in the Bible where God says the earth is his footstool. Isaiah 66:1, Lamentations 2:1, Matthew 5:35 and Acts 7:49.

Watch Brother Peacock below explain the Interpretation.

  • Scripture used for this Interpretation
    • 2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

  • Interpreting “Standing Out Of The Water And In The Water” Privately
    • Brother Peacock explains this verse by saying the earth was floating in water like a fishing cork in the universe with half the universe filled with water.
    • •And then he says God pushed it down with his feet.  There is no verse saying this happened or even implying it.  It’s a private interpretation.
      • Another problem with this interpretation is that the Bible says in this verse that the earth was “standing”. Not being pushed down.
    • Then he says it cannot be Noah’s world because this is the world that then was. But the bible says in the VERY SAME book that Noah’s world is the OLD WORLD
      • 2 Peter 2:5 KJV – 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
      • So Noah’s “old world” easily fits “the world that then was
        • 2 Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
    • To summarize their interpretation: God flooded half the universe and the Earth was floating.  Then God pushed it down with his feet into the water.  Then he flooded the rest of the universe and you get to Gen 1:2.

  • Interpreting “Standing Out Of The Water And In The Water” With Scripture
    • A Better non-private Interpretation:
    • The Earth Standing out of the water is talking about the waters above the firmament created on day 2 of creation.
      • The Earth has always been out of the water since Day 2 of creation. The waters above the earth are still there, so it’s still out of the water.
    • Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
    • There is no scripture that says the 2nd heaven firmament was ever flooded.
    • The Earth standing in the water has happened two times according to scripture:
    • Once at creation in Gen 1:1 and it ended when God said let the dry earth appear and then subsequently formed the earth.
      • Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry [land] appear: and it was so.
    • The second time the earth was in the water was Noah’s flood.
      • Genesis 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that [were] under the whole heaven, were covered.
      • Neither the first or the 2nd heaven had any extra water in them. Only the earth which perfectly matches the 2 peter 3 flood narrative.

Hath God Said,

Did God really say there were only 3 worlds and not 4?
Yes
Did god really leave out Noah’s world flood in chapter 3 when it’s clearly mentioned in chapter 2? Context….
No
Did God really say heavens, plural in 2 Peter 3:5? But there is only one heaven Gen 1:1
Yes
Did God ever say the Earth was floating like a bobber and half covered with water?
No
Did God ever say the there was a universal flood and the 1st and 2nd heavens flooded?
No

Did god really say that “from the beginning of the creation” he made them male and female?

Answer = YES

Implication:

We see the Gap Interpretation of 2 Peter 3:5-7 is Private and ignores the context of the book and the rest of the Bible talking about Noah’s flood.

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.


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